From: Gale McMillan <mcmillan@getnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: USN small arms training WAS M-60s vs. M-249s
Date: 1 Apr 1996 09:36:46 -0500

John Mares wrote:
# 
# In article <4j9v39$lfd@xring.cs.umd.edu>, mfsinc@indirect.com says...
# #
# #Hernando R. Cuenca wrote:
# ##
# ## Arne Carlsten <agc@primenet.com> scribbled:
# ##
# ## #Is the Navy still issuing M14s, or at least using them for marksmanship
# ## #training in boot camp?

       Thanks to the foresight of one man, the Navy has and will for a 
good number years continue to use the 762 and or the M14. Dick Brown the 
last Chief of Small Arms Procurement in the Pentagon, a retired Marine
officer who spent the last 20 someodd years upgrading the Navy small 
arms made it a crusade that the Navy would never ever on his watch adopt
the M16 as a primary weapons system. He was one of the few in position 
to do anything about it who did not get caught up in the politics of 
McNamara's folly. Thank God for his background with the US Marines. He 
had the common sense to hold out. This is the same man who is 
responsible for the .50 sniper rifle, the new navy service pistol and to 
many other accomplishments to numerous to list here.

Gale McMillan

From: Gale McMillan <mcmillan@getnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: USN small arms training WAS M-60s vs. M-249s
Date: 6 Apr 1996 00:23:51 -0500

Stan C. Crist wrote:
# 
# Gale McMillan (mcmillan@getnet.com) wrote:
# 
# :        Thanks to the foresight of one man, the Navy has and will for a
# : good number years continue to use the 762 and or the M14. Dick Brown the
# : last Chief of Small Arms Procurement in the Pentagon, a retired Marine
# : officer who spent the last 20 someodd years upgrading the Navy small
# : arms made it a crusade that the Navy would never ever on his watch adopt
# : the M16 as a primary weapons system.
# 
# No offense, but what does it matter what rifle the Navy uses?  After all,
# infantry combat is not their mission ('cept for the SEALs, of course).
# As a matter of fact, if the information in the Small Arms Master Plan is
# correct--that hit probability under combat stress approaches zero at any
# distance beyond 100 meters--then it doesn't seem to matter what caliber
# of rifle is issued to even combat infantrymen.
# 
# : He was one of the few in position
# : to do anything about it who did not get caught up in the politics of
# : McNamara's folly. Thank God for his background with the US Marines.
# 
# Hmmm...aren't the Marines using the M16A2, in preference to the M14?
# 
# : He had the common sense to hold out. This is the same man who is
# : responsible for the .50 sniper rifle, the new navy service pistol and to
# : many other accomplishments to numerous to list here.
# 
# New Navy service pistol?  Are you referring to that boat anchor that
# H&K is building for the spec ops types?  ;^)
# 
# Stan

Most of you seem to think that the Seals are the only
small arms oriented combat troops the Navy has. The 
last I heard there was something like 17 battalions
of Sea Bee. These land based sailors for the most part 
are dependant on themselves for their own security 
while operating in combat areas. 

Gale McMillan