From: Steve Harris <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition Subject: Re: The Scientific Basis of Chronic Disease Has Been Found. Date: 22 Aug 2005 17:24:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1124756656.866340.319590@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> montygram wrote: > The interview below is a must read. This article is a piece of nonsense. It's the old Peter Duesberg "AIDS is not caused by HIV" theory, except with a new doofus German as a stand-in for Duesberg. FYI, Kaposi's sarcoma (KS) is caused by the 8th member of the human herpes viruses, called naturally enough HHV-8. Other members are the viruses that cause cold sores, CMV, and mononucleosis. All are carcinogenic, to some degree. HHV-8 is transmitted by the fecal-oral route, like polio. Also like polio, most people have no symptoms from HHV-8, unless they become immunosuppressed. Here, HHV-8 has great similarities with the other herpes viruses, which infect the host over a lifetime, but cause few symptoms except in the immunosuppressed host (transplant KS being an example). HHV-8 infection rates go from 3% in the US to 50% in areas of poor hygeine (remember the fecal-oral transmission) in Africa. But actual cases of KS are always only the tip of the iceberg of HHV-8 infections, because it takes HHV-8 infection AND immune problems to produce KS In gay men, HHV-8 infection rates are even higher than Africa, which explains the early mystery of why KS was often seen with AIDS in gay men, but NOT nearly as frequently in other AIDS groups (transfusion-AIDS, hemophilia-factor AIDS, AIDS in Western children, and in women). Duesberg and Kremer ascribe gay-male KS to gay male use of nitrates and other drugs (like the good natural hygiene nazis these guys are). But not surprisingly KS IS a big feature of African AIDS (men, women, and children) in the same places that HHV-8 and some KS was endemic before the comming of HIV. In those places, even HIV-infected children develop KS which is identical to that seen in American gay men. But they do it without access to any of the drugs which Duesberg blames gay KS on. > NOTE: Generally speaking, when scientists talk about things like > protons and electrons, they are on the right track. COMMENT: When "scientists" talk about faked viral tests and huge international conspiracies to track infections that really aren't there, you know they have gone round the bend, mentally. Huge international conspiracies do not work. Somebody always talks. People like these natural-hygiene-nutty Germans: Duesberg, Kremer, Lanka, and Mathias Rath, have done, and are doing, great damage in Africa by telling African governments that the spread of HIV virus is not what is behind the new epidemic of AIDS. This only hurts. HIV cannot be cured, and in Africa it cannot even be treated. But its spread can be partly prevented by use of condoms and widespread testing (also short-term use of antivirals by HIV-positive mothers about to give birth), and the Germans referenced here are confusing the hell out of people in a place where education isn't that good anyway. And they are doing here on the internet, too. If you want the truth about these guys, I modestly recommend my own article. It's dated, but because it's mostly historical, it has stood up amazingly well. http://yarchive.net/med/aids_heresies.html SBH > Web Link to the below interview: > http://www.oikos.org/aids/kremerint.htm > > > > "We are Biological Hermophrodites in the Evolutionary Scheme of Life" > > Interview by Hans Jochim Ehlers (Raum + Zeit) with Heinrich Kremer, > M.D., on AIDS and cancer. <snip> |