From: John De Armond Newsgroups: alt.energy.homepower Subject: Re: Inverter Failures Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <c10t73l0ui7t2s9vjt0n97s82f9h77bfc9@4ax.com> Nobody seems to have read closely enough to answer your question so let me take a stab. No experience with that particular inverter but lots of experience designing and servicing UPS inverters - same thing, pretty much. The answer is "it depends". Mainly on how heavily loaded the inverter is and how hot the components (NOT the outside case, the actual components) get. Heat is the mortal enemy of electronics, especially electrolytic capacitors and the power semiconductors. Electrolytics can last essentially forever at near room temperature but only a couple of years if run at 90 deg C (assuming 105 degC rated caps). The DC input filter caps in particular, handle heavy high frequency current and so generate heat of their own. These should have a free flow of ambient air and be shielded from radiant heat from other components in the box. The power semiconductors are second most sensitive to heat. The case temperature should be only a few degrees above ambient, no more than perhaps 20 degC. Chemical reaction rates (including things like whisker growth) double for every 10 degC rise in temperature so keeping things cool is vitally important. There is NO REASON for fixed installation devices to be designed to run any hotter but many designers do it to save a few pennies on heat sinks. The first thing I'd do is take some measurements. Measure the case temperature and the exhaust air if it has vents, while the unit is under full load. If the rise is much over 20 degC over ambient, consider forced air cooling. Only a little is needed - a 24 volt muffin fan run on 12 volts uses practically no power but does an excellent job of cooling. Next, if you can get to them without significant disturbance (I'd be reluctant to disassemble a unit that old, as internal plastic could already be getting brittle, etc.), measure the temperature of the input filter capacitors (likely the largest components in there other than the transformers). Again, use that 20 degC magic rule. Finally, measure the power semiconductor (FETs, diodes) CASE temperature. My favorite measuring instrument is a fairly high end infrared pyrometer. Not one of the $100 cheapies that you can buy just about everywhere. Mine has adjustable emissivity and a tightly defined measuring spot size. I can zoom in on an individual component. If you can't lay your hands on one of those, the second best is a very fine thermocouple (26-30 gauge) with a blob of heatsink compound on the junction. This tiny couple can be reached in through air vents and laid atop the component of interest. The heatsink compound thermally couples it to the component. Scads of under $50 digital voltmeters are available with type K thermocouple inputs. Get the thermocouple from http://www.omega.com. You have to be a little careful with the thermocouple because some of the components of interest have voltage on them. Insulate the wire down to the junction itself with several coats of fingernail polish or similar varnish. The voltage won't affect the temperature readout. The problem is when you brush the couple leads up against the grounded case. One last thing, go over again your lightning protection. One trick that I learned from years of maintaining mountain-top 2-way radios is to coil every lead that goes into or out of the device into a couple of loops, maybe a foot in diameter. Upstream of the loop (toward the lightning), provide a very close arc gap for the lightning to divert through to ground. My standard "gap" was to take a little nick out of the wire's insulation. Tape a piece of solid conductor wire parallel to the wire so that it passes over the nick. Solidly ground the solid wire. The arc gap is the air space the thickness of the insulation. Optionally, take your knife and raise some barbs on the solid copper wire where it sits over the gap. These points make the breakdown voltage of the gap much less. The way this works is this. Lightning surges are made up of very high frequency components (do a Fourier transform on a pulse with a rise time of millions of volts per microsecond!) Those couple of coils of wire form a choke that presents a high impedance to the incoming pulse. At the same time, the arc gap presents a very low impedance path to ground. The lightning will take the easiest path and that is through the gap. This was an accidental discovery. It is usual practice to coil excess feedline at the base of the tower. I started noticing burn marks on the feedline and tower right above the coils. After I saw several of these, it dawned on me what was going on. Since then I don't think I've lost a single radio to lightning damage. I coil the feedline on the tower and again where it comes through the building wall. All power and control wiring gets coiled inside the building and gaps as described above installed. It is common practice to run a ground bus around the inside of a transmitter building. Usually 3-4" wide x 1/8th thick copper bus bar, grounded every few feet to ground rods driven into the ground or if the building was properly planned, the copper mesh embedded under the building. I arrange the arc gap placement so that there is no more than an inch or two of wire between the gap and the ground bus. Here's another suggestion for preparing for the eventual failure. Dedicate an inexpensive generator to the well pump by itself. Wire it up so that the pressure switch operates the idle control on the generator and through a time delay relay, a contactor that energizes the pump. Adjust the idle or economy setting on the generator to take it to as slow an idle as possible for maximum standby fuel economy. The operating sequence is this: The pressure switch calls for water. The generator is throttled up to full speed. A few seconds later the contactor is closed by the time delay relay and the pump is powered. When the tank is filled, the pressure switch opens, the pump turns off and the engine returns to idle. If you group your water consuming activities reasonably close together you can simply start the generator and go about your business without using too much fuel. This is easier on the generator and probably more fuel-efficient than starting and stopping it each time. I have my house set up like that. I can run the pump either on the whole-house generator when I'm doing other things such as cooking or running the AC or I can run it on its dedicated small generator when nothing else needs power. All my lighting is powered from a UPS with a large battery bank so I can go a day or two between chargings. Up here in the mountains we can have snow outages that can last 2 weeks so I have to be prepared to live essentially as if I were off-grid. I've solved the refrigeration problem rather cleverly, I think. I have two chest freezers and an upright refrigerator. All are on wheels. I simply roll them outside on the porch. When the temperature is in the single digits everything remains nicely frozen. I'll occasionally put a container of hot water in the 'fridge to keep it from freezing. One last thought. Now would be a good time to start looking for a spare inverter to keep on the shelf. Now that you have the luxury of time to look, maybe you can find a used one somewhere on the cheap. John On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:40:32 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld <ronrosenfeld@nospam.org> wrote: >My system, which includes a pair of series-stacked SW5548's, has been >running without difficulty for 6 1/2 years. But I find myself concerned >about dealing with inverter failure(s). > >Does anyone here have data on how long these things might last? >Strategies to deal with failures in an off-grid system? > >I could certainly run off the backup generator, but how long does it take >to get an SW5548 repaired or replaced? I live in Downeast Maine. > >The only critical 240V item I have is the well pump. >--ron |